I’ve seen a lot of confusion on message boards and in blog posts about what communication with the Gods feels like. Or confusion about how it’s possible to talk with the Gods at all, given that They aren’t omnipresent.
There is this highly held taboo in many Heathen circles about talking to the Gods like They are omnipresent, like they are similar in nature to the Christian God. In fact, there is so much negativity towards the very idea of communicating with the Gods in a friendly way is often harshly ridiculed.
Instead, there are recommendations made to offer sacrifices to the Gods on the necessary days in order to placate Them. Heathens, especially, are told to focus on working with the wights and ancestral spirits instead of trying to develop deeper relationships with the Gods. We’re told that the Gods only choose certain people to work with, so there’s no point in trying to pursue a relationship with one of the Gods if it’s just going to be futile.
Working with wights and ancestral spirits is wonderful – I feel like I should work more with the wights and my ancestral spirits more often, but that is a byproduct of being made to feel like I’m somehow doing something wrong by working more with the Gods than with the wights.
No one needs to feel guilty about working with the Gods. No one needs to feel that they aren’t good enough to approach the Gods. Every God has His or Her unique type of worshipers. Loki has the fringe groups. Odin has the leaders. Freyr has the nobles. Tyr has the lawmakers. Ullr has the skiers. Mani has the sensitive. Freyja has the vain. Frigga has the mothers… I could go on forever. For every role you take on, there is a God or Goddess that would be more than happy to meet you.
This idea that the Gods aren’t interested in human affairs is nonsense. Yes, the Gods are busy with Their own challenges. That doesn’t mean They don’t get the messages sent to Them. I mentioned before that the Gods aren’t omnipresent. They can’t occupy the entirety of the universe at once. But Their names are tied to Their wyrd threads, and They receive the prayers we send even when we can’t feel Them.
Perhaps this is a bad analogy, but most people can relate. You know those moments when something really good or something really bad has happened and you can feel it so deeply within your soul that you know exactly what it is and who it has happened to? That’s the type of connection that a prayer said to a God generates automatically.
Now, while there are others out there who would say not to try to talk to the Gods like Christians talk to their God, I am not going to lend my voice to theirs. Because why should it matter if we use the same technique to talk to our Gods that the Christians use to commune with their God? I highly doubt that the Christian God is going to somehow forget that he isn’t Odin, Loki, Freyr, or any other God that doesn’t share His name, so what is there to lose?
Oh, but the Gods can’t hear us if we try to talk to Them like that; they ignore us because they find it offensive. Really? Have you tried it? I talk to the Gods in my head all the time. Do They answer back? Not usually in words, but I do sometimes get impressions and sensations. It’s much easier to send an impression than a verbal message via the threads of wyrd.
I think that Heathens forget that the wyrds of men and the wyrds of Gods can and do intertwine. We are all connected through the web of wyrd, and every person has the ability to sense that web. Every person has the ability to send and receive messages through the threads of that web. If you’ve ever heard the phone ring and known who was on the other side before you saw the caller id, you’ve experienced what it feels like to receive an impression through the threads of wyrd. If anyone has ever told you that they just knew it was you on the other end or that they just knew you were going to arrive, then you have sent messages through the threads of wyrd. The Gods are part of the web of wyrd, and everyone can send and receive messages through the web, including the Gods.
On message boards, I’ve often seen it said that Heathens shouldn’t pray to the Gods because it’s too Christian of a practice. I understand that there is some leftover resentment towards Christianity because the Roman Catholic Church did its best to wipe out all polytheistic communities during the Crusades. But guess what? They failed, and they aren’t trying to wipe us out anymore. Trying to convert us, yes, but their faith requires they do that, and not all denominations of Christianity believe in forced conversions.
There is such an anti-Christian atmosphere in any Pagan circle that it’s no wonder so many Christians end up resenting us. We ostracize them; we demonize their religion the way that they used to demonize ours. And I’m not saying I’m not guilty of that – I view Christianity, for the most part, as a very cult-like faith. I tend to think people who follow Christianity are either ignorant or complacent – sheep in sheep’s clothing. But I don’t think that because of the religion itself – I think that because most of the Christians I have met don’t even try to think for themselves. They just take it as writ that the Bible has all the answers. That is what gets under my skin.
And it gets under my skin in Heathenry, too. There are Heathens who view the lore as the end-all, be-all of the way Heathenry should work. Anything outside the lore is considered taboo, nevermind the fact that the lore we have was written specifically for a Christian audience, so there’s no telling how much of the lore was altered. If you need a book to give you all the answers, then you’re not thinking hard enough.
That’s why I hate it when I see people talking about how Heathens shouldn’t offer prayers to the Gods or even approach the Gods without working deeply with the wights and ancestral spirits. I don’t know what kind of ancestral work others do, but the way I view ancestral work is this: they passed on the legacy of my bloodline to me, and now it is my responsibility to live my life to the best of my ability. I don’t need to consult with my ancestors to figure out how I should live my life – there are some ancestors I’d like to converse with just to learn more about their lives. But nothing should feel like a requirement.
I found an article earlier about how the eight High Days are often held in the honor of a particular God or Goddess even when the practitioner (in a group or as a solitary practitioner) has no real connection with that deity. The reason that the practitioners hold these rituals are because that’s what’s expected. That’s what is required because those days are holy only to certain deities.
Just to throw this out there – no one is required to honor a deity they aren’t connected to. To me, making an offering to a deity that I’m not connected to personally in order to honor a particular High Day would horrify me because it would strike me as being incredibly rude. I don’t make offerings to Thor because we aren’t close, and He doesn’t want anything from me. I can feel Him around, sometimes, because He is still the protector of all Heathens, and I’m not exempt from His protection just because we barely get along.
That’s another thing – there are going to be Gods that don’t like you, and there are going to be Gods that you don’t like. It took me a long time to accept that one of the Gods I am never going to be able to be anything more than civil with is Thor, since He is considered one of the most important Gods within Heathenry. For a long time, I thought that the lack of His friendship meant that I could never properly be a Heathen because it seemed to me that He was the one God that all Heathens should be able to turn to.
But I don’t fall into any of the categories that most of His worshipers fall into. I’m not a farmer (and I don’t garden); I’m a scholar. I’m not a warrior, I’m a shaman. My strength isn’t borne from physical prowess, but from intellectual prowess. I’m not right for Thor’s path, and His path isn’t right for me. The paths I do walk, however – the paths of Odin, Loki, Freyr, Ullr, Mani, Freyja, Sigyn, Tyr (thus far) – are the right paths for me to walk, and I am the right person to walk them.
So many of us try to conform to the expectations of the mainstream when we don’t have to. We can forge our own paths, and we can use whatever method of communication we want to use in order to commune with the Gods. Sometimes the communication will come in the form of verbal words (that’s the rarest kind), other times it will come in the form of impressions or visualizations or impulses. Those impressions can come during ritual or just during everyday life. The Gods always get our messages, so we should never be afraid to talk to them.
I personally make it a point, when I ask for anything from the Gods, to add the condition, “If you are willing,” to the words said in ritual or prayer. I like it better than using “please,” because “please” seems too much like desperation when used within the context of a prayer. I dislike “please” because it makes me feel like I am annoying the Gods due to the pleading nature of the word. And using the phrase, “If you are willing,” makes it much easier to accept a negative response. Generally, when we say “please” in real life, we don’t expect to hear “no,” in response. That’s another reason I prefer the phrase, “If you are willing.”
Overall, however, the point I am trying to make here is that there is no wrong way to communicate with the Gods. The biggest problem people have with hearing the Gods is questioning whether they are making up the communication or really receiving a message. The only way to resolve that is to understand that the Gods can communicate through your imagination as easily as They can communicate through any other means. Once you stop trying to stop filtering out your imagination, you stop filtering out the Gods. Once you stop filtering out the Gods, you start understanding which messages come from the Gods and which messages come from your psyche trying to trip you up.
So figure out which Gods speak to you the most. Which Gods struck a chord with you when you read Their myths? Whose personality meshed the most with yours? If you don’t know where to start when it comes to approaching a God, pretend to have a conversation with that God. In your head or out loud, it doesn’t matter. If you’re interested enough in developing a real relationship with that God, and the God in question isn’t one of the more antisocial Gods, then chances are good that the deity will eventually get back in touch.
Don’t get me wrong, it won’t happen instantly, even if you already understand what I mean by sending and receiving impressions of intent through the threads of wyrd. Any trained high-level Empath does this type of sending and receiving naturally, so if you’re an Empath, you have to learn how to send messages across planes (which is less difficult than it sounds, thankfully).
For those who don’t feel confident in their sending skills, it might take longer for the message to reach the God you’re trying to contact, but the message will still reach Him or Her. Think of it as writing a letter to someone that you’d really like to meet – or, conversely, write a letter and burn it as an offering to that deity. That’s one of the fastest ways to get a message to the Gods, and we have Loki to thank for that little trick.
To reiterate my main point – there is no wrong way to communicate with the Gods. No matter what type of message you send or the medium you use, the Gods will hear you. Whether or not They respond, well, that is up to Them. If They don’t respond to you, then view the non-response as the message it is: “You aren’t suited to my path, try another.” Try not to view a non-response as a negative occurrence – chances are, the Gods already know who you are, and there is a particular deity’s path that will be a perfect fit for you. Perseverance is the key in communing with the Gods – if you give up on Them, then why should They not give up on you?
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I never got the memo that I “shouldn’t” (or wouldn’t be able to) communicate with gods before I started, well, communicating with gods. (Or, basically, “You can’t do this thing!” “Whoops, too late, I’m already doing it.”) Or at least, at first, with Loki, and then later Sigyn, Freyr, and sometimes Fenrir (and very occasionally, Freyja and Thor). My communication method (pendulum, since I can’t “hear” them very well, or at least not well enough to have actual conversations) works for me, but that’s not to say it will work for everyone. I do disagree with “the gods always get our messages”; there was a time (one among many) that Loki had upset me with one of his tests, and I thought-projected to him that I’d like it if he’d apologise (which he does, if I want him to). Later on, I was talking to him, and I asked him if he wanted to say anything and he said no. Was he trolling? No. I was about to get REALLY angry but I thought to ask if he’d heard me earlier and he indicated that he hadn’t. He’d been busy, and I’d neglected to say his name to get his attention before I’d thought-projected to him. (He did, in fact, apologise after I’d told him what I’d said.)
Yeah, I thought I made it clear in my post, but perhaps I didn’t. I meant that the Gods always get our messages as long as we attach those messages to Their names. Thanks for giving me the chance to clear up that confusion! 🙂
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Yeah, Loki indicated that it would be best if I said his name before talking to him, although I do sometimes still forget to do that (at least at the start of whatever I’m saying, but usually will remember in the middle of the sentence :p )
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I go outside and speak to the gods, not pray but talk to them like they were present in my yard (I go out into my backyard, mostly at night when everyone is in bed and it’s quiet) and I just talk to them about how things are going, some of the things I’m concerned about and I leave offerings out there for them.
I’ve been told it’s wrong, but since this is my faith, and there isn’t an actual record of rituals and ceremonies handed down to us like in the Abrahamic faiths, I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing until I’m given some kind of sign or feeling that it’s wrong. So far, I’ve felt that connection, I know when the gods/ancestors/wights are aware and I’ve never felt any displeasure towards my actions. So, anyone telling me I’m doing it wrong can lump it!
Also, I’ve read about enough grave goods being discovered that contain markings and words related to the Abrahamic faiths to make me wonder if our polytheistic ancestors might not have included the god of Abraham in their own faith too? Much like the Romans did with any of the other ‘foreign gods’ they encountered in their expansion.
I talk to the Gods as well, so you aren’t alone. As someone who is Gods-touched, I can’t *not* talk to Them.
As for whether our ancestors included the Abrahamic god in their faith, there’s little reason why they wouldn’t have done so if they felt the need. While there are a lot of Pagans (especially Heathens) who distance themselves from dealing with the Abrahamic God and try to ignore Him entirely, I don’t really have that problem.
While I don’t talk about this often due to the controversy it sparks, I sometimes run into the Abrahamic God because I am Gods-touched. While I don’t worship Him or otherwise honor Him, I have had conversations with Him – it’s pretty hard to ignore a God who decides to pop in for a conversation no matter what pantheon that God belongs to.
The Abrahamic God is part of a pantheon as well, although that fact has been long-suppressed. It’s weird, but He is actually pretty chill – it’s His followers who I can’t stand. I’ve explained to Him that I can’t follow His path when the majority of His followers turn out to be narrow-minded bigots. His response: “That’s cool; you’re not really suited to my path. Glad to see you’ve found your way to the right one for you.”
In my experience, it is only humans who try to tell other humans how they should and shouldn’t worship and whether they should or shouldn’t worship certain deities. The Gods themselves don’t really seem to care if They are worshiped or ignored. They care if oaths are sworn to them that are then broken, and They seek out those who are right for Their paths, but They don’t force anyone to worship Them. That’s an entirely human undertaking.
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I really, really appreciate your approach to the Abrahamic God here. I walk a blended path, and sometimes I am tempted to scorn my old single path–yet the better angel of my nature knows such scorn is the easy way out and that I do not need to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
I cannot express enough how much your thinking and writing helps me work through various issues. To know even one person can be so reasonable is a comfort and hope for me. Thank you!!!
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Thank you very much for this. It was very inspiring. As someone fairly new to heathenry. The honeymoon so-to-speak of finding Freyr during spring and summer is over and the last intense feeling around my ancestors happened during a Winter Nights ritual last year. I felt like I needed some guidance and encouragement. I found both here, thank you!